in some websites you see a food as bad for vitiligo than you go to another website and you see the same food as good for vitiligo
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to me the good foods are the ones good for your nervous system
and the bad the ones bad for your nervous system
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my opinion
vitiligo is in our dna and our nervous system triggers it when our nervous system is not working well
alot of people have vitiligo in them but never gets trigger
Robot > francisco garcia francoAugust 3, 2015 at 5:08am
My opinion as follows...
About food: You are right. Try to use the elimination approach. If one site says it's bad, delete it from your diet. Of couse you always have to check if the elimination makes real sense.
About vitiligo: Your approach makes certain sense. Nervous system is one possible trigger. There are others (physical, psycological, emotional, and enviromental). It's always a severe event (not systematic). However, causes are systematic (not severe), and can be summarized as: stress hormones, oxidative stress and physical traumas/friction.
As you can see, triggers and causes can provide a lot of combinations. I've been thinking about a model that tries to explain this, as follows:
Some trigger examples are: severe emotional or psychological trauma, severe skin sun burn, severe friction, severe chronic allergy, chemical intoxication, etc.
So, someone can trigger his/her vitiligo by a severe emotional trauma, while systematic physical traumas to a specific area spread the white patches.
Alternatively, another person can trigger the onset of vitiligo by a severe physical trauma, but it spreads because of systematic psychological stress or even oxidative stress...
One way that we can influence genes without changing their basic structure is through the foods we eat. There is abnormal DNA Methylation in Vitiligo patients. Therefore as per the science of Nutrigenomics ideally a nutritionists should take a look into the methylation pattern of our DNA and designs a personalized nutrition plan for each individual according to the mutations present in his genes which may caused by a variety of reasons.
A methyl-deficient diet leads to a decrease in DNA methylation, but the changes are reversible when methyl is added back to diet. We can supply this methyl deficiency in our body through B vitamins and folates( folic acid and choline). Complete list is given at http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/epigenetics/nutrition/table....
It has been generally found that vitiligo patients are often deficient in vitamin B12, copper, folic acid and zinc. Especially the mineral Zinc has been found to be helpful in treating vitiligo( At page 83 of this article at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3388346/
But before taking any vitamin, mineral supplements, you can also try to boost levels of these vitamins/minerals by eating foods that are rich in them. It is important to know that supplements are necessary only if anyone is deficient in those minerals or vitamins and which cannot be supplied by having a healthy diet. The list of natural occurring food sources for Zinc, b (2,3,5,6, complex) including b12 and vitamin D which are necessary for vitiligo sufferers is given among the things listed at http://www.deathtodiabetes.com/site/mobile?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dea...
While Copper is found the most in seafood (max in oysters), kale,shiitake mushroom etc.
If you are found to be copper or zinc deficient and you are taking a supplement for it then it must be remembered that daily intake limit for each is 2mg and 10-15mg respectively. And both cannot be taken together, they have to be taken at different times of the day as they interact with each other and any excess of one will lead to deficiency of the other and vice versa. So take it in only in recommended dosage at least 12 hours apart.
In India people drink water kept in copper containers to supply their copper deficiency and also because of the anti-bacterial properties of copper.
It is relevant to mention here that Melanin is made from the amino acid tyrosine, which is naturally present in-Seaweed,Egg Whites,Salmon,Turkey,Pumpkin Flesh,Pork,Mustard Greens,Tuna,Sesame Seeds,Kidney Beans,Spinach,Avocado, brown whole chickpea etc
Now the most important thing,
THINGS TO AVOID TAKING-
A) Avoid the items to which you are allergic to or have an intolerance for. Ex- if you are lactose, gluten intolerant or allergic to say tuna fish.
B) Food contaminants/additives/preservatives and cosmetic products could aggravate Vitiligo by causing oxidative stress in the skin. Particularly environmental chemicals such as bisphenol-A (BPA), which is present in food packaging and containers, can affect our epigenetic gene expression. http://aaaspolicyfellowships.org/sci-fly/you-are-what-your-grandmot...
Therefore we must prefer organic and avoid pre cooked, junk food.
C) It is advisable that vitiligo patients avoid omega-6 lipids and use omega-3 fatty acids instead.
Omega-3 polyunsaturated fat is a healthy fat that is contained in flaxseed oil, hemp oil, pumpkin seeds and oily fish, such as wild salmon, sardines, tuna, mackerel, trout and herring, etc. Plant-based foods dark green vegetables such as seaweed, broccoli, spinach, kale,etc also contain omega 3.
Omega-6 polyunsaturated fat is contained in walnuts, sesame seeds, sunflower seeds, black currant seed oil, evening primrose oil, borage oil and many other vegetable oils.
D) Avoid Mango, cashew, pistaschio, oak, cassava, areca nut, red chillies, cherry, raspberry, cranberry, blackberry and tea as they contain naturally occurring plant phenol and polyphenolic compounds (tannins), which may aggravate vitiligo.
{ Source of both (C) and (D) at http://www.ijdvl.com/article.asp?issn=0378-6323;year=2009;volume=75...
E) Do not take blueberries and pears because they contain a naturally occurring depigmenting agent. http://health.howstuffworks.com/skin-care/problems/medical/vitiligo...
Finally our daily diet must consist of 1/3 part proteins, 1/3 carbohydrates and 1/3 heathy fatty acids for maintaining a healthy body and keeping a robust DNA.
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vitiligo diets are tricky
in some websites you see a food as bad for vitiligo than you go to another website and you see the same food as good for vitiligo
-----
to me the good foods are the ones good for your nervous system
and the bad the ones bad for your nervous system
-------------------
my opinion
vitiligo is in our dna and our nervous system triggers it when our nervous system is not working well
alot of people have vitiligo in them but never gets trigger
My opinion as follows...
About food: You are right. Try to use the elimination approach. If one site says it's bad, delete it from your diet. Of couse you always have to check if the elimination makes real sense.
About vitiligo: Your approach makes certain sense. Nervous system is one possible trigger. There are others (physical, psycological, emotional, and enviromental). It's always a severe event (not systematic). However, causes are systematic (not severe), and can be summarized as: stress hormones, oxidative stress and physical traumas/friction.
As you can see, triggers and causes can provide a lot of combinations. I've been thinking about a model that tries to explain this, as follows:
Some trigger examples are: severe emotional or psychological trauma, severe skin sun burn, severe friction, severe chronic allergy, chemical intoxication, etc.
So, someone can trigger his/her vitiligo by a severe emotional trauma, while systematic physical traumas to a specific area spread the white patches.
Alternatively, another person can trigger the onset of vitiligo by a severe physical trauma, but it spreads because of systematic psychological stress or even oxidative stress...
A methyl-deficient diet leads to a decrease in DNA methylation, but the changes are reversible when methyl is added back to diet. We can supply this methyl deficiency in our body through B vitamins and folates( folic acid and choline). Complete list is given at http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/epigenetics/nutrition/table....
It has been generally found that vitiligo patients are often deficient in vitamin B12, copper, folic acid and zinc. Especially the mineral Zinc has been found to be helpful in treating vitiligo( At page 83 of this article at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3388346/
But before taking any vitamin, mineral supplements, you can also try to boost levels of these vitamins/minerals by eating foods that are rich in them. It is important to know that supplements are necessary only if anyone is deficient in those minerals or vitamins and which cannot be supplied by having a healthy diet. The list of natural occurring food sources for Zinc, b (2,3,5,6, complex) including b12 and vitamin D which are necessary for vitiligo sufferers is given among the things listed at http://www.deathtodiabetes.com/site/mobile?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dea...
While Copper is found the most in seafood (max in oysters), kale,shiitake mushroom etc.
If you are found to be copper or zinc deficient and you are taking a supplement for it then it must be remembered that daily intake limit for each is 2mg and 10-15mg respectively. And both cannot be taken together, they have to be taken at different times of the day as they interact with each other and any excess of one will lead to deficiency of the other and vice versa. So take it in only in recommended dosage at least 12 hours apart.
In India people drink water kept in copper containers to supply their copper deficiency and also because of the anti-bacterial properties of copper.
It is relevant to mention here that Melanin is made from the amino acid tyrosine, which is naturally present in-Seaweed,Egg Whites,Salmon,Turkey,Pumpkin Flesh,Pork,Mustard Greens,Tuna,Sesame Seeds,Kidney Beans,Spinach,Avocado, brown whole chickpea etc
Now the most important thing,
THINGS TO AVOID TAKING-
A) Avoid the items to which you are allergic to or have an intolerance for. Ex- if you are lactose, gluten intolerant or allergic to say tuna fish.
B) Food contaminants/additives/preservatives and cosmetic products could aggravate Vitiligo by causing oxidative stress in the skin. Particularly environmental chemicals such as bisphenol-A (BPA), which is present in food packaging and containers, can affect our epigenetic gene expression.
http://aaaspolicyfellowships.org/sci-fly/you-are-what-your-grandmot...
Therefore we must prefer organic and avoid pre cooked, junk food.
C) It is advisable that vitiligo patients avoid omega-6 lipids and use omega-3 fatty acids instead.
Omega-3 polyunsaturated fat is a healthy fat that is contained in flaxseed oil, hemp oil, pumpkin seeds and oily fish, such as wild salmon, sardines, tuna, mackerel, trout and herring, etc. Plant-based foods dark green vegetables such as seaweed, broccoli, spinach, kale,etc also contain omega 3.
Omega-6 polyunsaturated fat is contained in walnuts, sesame seeds, sunflower seeds, black currant seed oil, evening primrose oil, borage oil and many other vegetable oils.
D) Avoid Mango, cashew, pistaschio, oak, cassava, areca nut, red chillies, cherry, raspberry, cranberry, blackberry and tea as they contain naturally occurring plant phenol and polyphenolic compounds (tannins), which may aggravate vitiligo.
{ Source of both (C) and (D) at http://www.ijdvl.com/article.asp?issn=0378-6323;year=2009;volume=75...
E) Do not take blueberries and pears because they contain a naturally occurring depigmenting agent.
http://health.howstuffworks.com/skin-care/problems/medical/vitiligo...
Finally our daily diet must consist of 1/3 part proteins, 1/3 carbohydrates and 1/3 heathy fatty acids for maintaining a healthy body and keeping a robust DNA.
Great Read!
The methodology seems identical to the philosophy of functional medicine. Well worth seeing a Dr. who practices functional medicine.
Vitiligo=Primary Cause (genetic) + Secondary Causes (non genetic and systematic) + Trigger (severe).
More details at: www.vitiligomap.com
So, food allergies (sometimes not even noticeable) cause oxidative stress, which is one the the possible Secondary Causes.
That is the correlation.